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Hey everyone! Is there a free keyword counter that calculates the amount of keywords in a post and determines the percentage of it in there? Most search engines scan the article for a related keyword density and some people have made programs for that. I just can't remember any programs that I have read about because I haven't used them yet. Thanks for reading/answering and thanks for this forum! |
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Monkeyman, why do you care? I've heard from the pros that keyword density doesn't matter so much anymore. Most of your energy for keywords should be focused on anchor text, not keywords on your site.
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Keyword density doesn't matter. Its a myth. Don't waste your time. If you are still interested check this out (or the other google search results) |
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I've been receiving good information from SEO books and I believe keyword density is real. So far I've had 2 people that are new to the forum tell me it's not. The book has more weight then both of you combined. Indyan, by posting those links, you literally pointed out that what you previously said is a lie. If it was a myth, there wouldn't be multiple search results where it's listed, there wouldn't be tools like I asked for and there wouldn't be tools in the first 5 search results of the search term you used in Google. |
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Your SEO book is probably outdated (or written by someone not aware of the latest trends). Thats the problem. Too many people rely on outdated SEO methods, instead of staying updated and fail to keep up with the latest developments. Its a myth. But yes many people still fall for it. And if you had taken enough time to check the facts yourself, you wouldn't have fallen for it either. Ok here are some links to get your started on the right track. http://www.hobo-web.co.uk/seo-blog/i...sity-seo-myth/ How Search Really Works: The Keyword Density Myth | Search Engine People | Toronto The Keyword Density of Non-Sense Keyword Density (KD): Revisiting an SEO Myth IR Thoughts Keyword Density Myth - Find the Bonsai Trees | Big Oak SEO Blog Keyword Density Myth - Find the Bonsai Trees | Big Oak SEO Blog Keyword Density: The SEO Myth that Never Dies | ReveNews Uninstalled: The Top Five Myths of SEO (IMHO) - Myth #2 I got all this from the first page of Google Search. So you can easily find more info if you wish to. Dont be so gullible and easy to trick. And only take advice from reputed SEO gurus (and more importantly don follow old articles/books). Basically, you must have keywords you are targetting in the article. So use them a few times while writing. But don't bother about striving for a pirticular %. That is pure bs. % doesn't matter. But yeah, dont overstuff your article with keywords. Dont be artificial. Use your common sense and that should do it. Check out this cartoon you dont want to endup like that : http://www.dailyseoblog.com/2008/11/...yword-density/ |
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You changed "Your SEO book is crap and outdated. Thats the problem. " to "Your SEO book is probably outdated (or written by someone not aware of the latest trends). Thats the problem." and stuff like that won't get me to believe you. That attitude isn't too pleasing to my tastes in how a human acts. If you're wondering where I found it, I have recent comments that get emailed to me for each thread I'm subscribed too. My SEO methods aren't outdated, I used the Search Engine Optimization Bible by Jerry Ledford. It's copyright is from 2008. While Google tends to change how it's search works frequently, it still will follow some of it's old rules because it can't be coming up every week with a brand new way to search, thus crippling the old way to do search indexing (such as using keywords and scanning websites). EDIT: The book is also published by Wiley Publishing, a well known book supporter/publisher. I get great information from their books and they've been around for years. You keep using Google to support your argument with gathering no information (just opinion) from your own knowledge to support it. The first time you used it, you entered the wrong keywords which supported my argument and answering my first initial question that the thread was about (btw, thanks). The next time, you changed your keywords from what I asked for, to what you needed to support yourself (the first set of keywords is "find about keyword density" and the second set is "keyword density myth". Do a search on "keyword density fact(s)" and see what you come up with. Okay? "Basically, you must have keywords you are targetting in the article. So use them a few times while writing. But don't bother about striving for a pirticular %. That is pure bs. % doesn't matter. But yeah, dont overstuff your article with keywords. Dont be artificial. Use your common sense and that should do it." Other then what I made bold (which is your opinion, especially the BS part), I already learned from the book, thanks. That's where I get my facts from, as you suggested that I check. The "facts" that you linked are from people that I've never heard from! I'll take what they say with a grain of salt, unless referred to me by a reputable website that I do visit, I won't give any more weight. In the end, that entire quoted paragraph is full of useless information to you, considering that you don't believe in keyword density. Let me explain, keyword density is the amount of times you use a keyword in an article. For example, using only what I would consider to be a keyword only 3 times in a 500 word article, would still leave it to have a 0.6% keyword density with just that 1 keyword being used 3 times. What's the point in having keywords, if you don't believe in keyword density? The density is there to make it more obvious to the search engines when they scan the article, less keywords make it less obvious. Only 1 keyword being used 1 time is still a keyword and still leaves a density, thus keyword density. Again, the information you stated in that paragraph is totally contradicting your belief on flat out denying keyword density in an article. You first say "keyword density is a myth" then you go to give me helpful hints on how keyword density really works. What? The website Keyword Density (KD): Revisiting an SEO Myth IR Thoughts that you linked is using the default wordpress theme, which means that the owner is probably doing SEO but possibly using a content scraper to add articles to their website. It's probably a spam site and even if it's not, it's legit and completely copied content free, I am still turned off by the theme. Haven't you heard about using a default wordpress theme can scare people away? The gurus that you are talking about, aren't "reputed" with me, they don't have a reputation. Repute's definition is "1 : the character or status commonly ascribed to one : reputation 2 : the state of being favorably known, spoken of, or esteemed" that is directly from Webster. You are the only one that I've heard about these "Guru's" from. And you're endorsing them from what, the front page of Google? Do you even know these people? How can they have reputation if you're just finding them off of Google and only spending two seconds to analyze the title search result and not spending months to take what information they have in to account? I could say the same thing for myself, but remember, I've yet to be convinced to actually click-through their links and spend my valuable time on learning from what could be useless information. My question to you is, do you, or do you not believe in keyword density? Please, you won't convince me otherwise. I will continue to believe in keyword density. |
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Yeah. I edited my post as after submitting it, I felt that it came out way to strong (to the point of sounding almost rude). That's not the way I intended my comment to sound. One of the article I linked to contains opinion from Aaron Wall. He is one of the biggest names in SEO ( Aaron Wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). If that is not enough for you, then I can't really convince you. What I am saying is i) Obviously your article should include the keywords you are targetting. ii) A pirticular density doesn't matter. There is no sweet spot. (thus I don't believe in keyword density) iii) You do not need to use a keyword density tool. While writing the article just keep in mind your keywords. Don't artificially attempt to include keywords or manipulate the article to attain a pirticular %.
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Here are several websites that will help you choose good keywords: https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordTool Free Keyword Suggestion Tool from Wordtracker Free Keyword Suggestion Tool - Keyword popularity Tool Seo Book Keyword Suggestion Tool FREE Keyword Suggestion Tool, Keyword Popularity Check Tool, Research WordtrackerKeywords.Net - free wordtracker keyword suggestion and research tool 7Search.com - Keyword Suggestion - Login |
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